JOHNNY SIBILLY &
MEG STALTER: HIGH GAYS

The two easygoing Judy’s dish and give, serving intimate memories about growing up gay, their favorite moments on Hacks and how being misfits always works out when you're surrounded by friends. STALTER, the comedic queen turned post-dramatic lead in the recently premiered Cora Bora, doesn’t mind being known for her splendidly delivered “Hi, gay” parody. “I'll never get tired of that,” STALTER retorts. “It’s so nice. If there's something to go viral for, that's what I would've wanted it to be.” SIBILLY charms as usual, exploring everything from past lives, to anthropomorphism, to his first time smoking weed. Read on for more from the two highly connected buds.

MEG STALTER: I am being shy but now I’ll be myself. I was acting like I haven’t met you but you’re one of my closest friends.

JOHNNY SIBILLY: I’ll start. What are your favorite clichés or conventions? 

MS:  Well, what does that mean? 

JS: Like, um, “gay men, they just have…”

MS: Oh, like, “women – they can't drive.” A favorite that I believe: all queer people are really funny; all gay men are really funny.

JS: That is a cliché, but it's not necessarily true.

MS: My favorite thing about someone – well, my favorite thing about someone is if they're really sweet – but then the second is if they're funny. That is one, right?

JS: Yeah, that is definitely a cliché. 

MS: I will say that most gay men are funny to me. The ones that I meet are.

JS: They gravitate towards you. What about the cliché that bisexual people are greedy? Is that true?

MS: No. I don't think so. I think that all bisexual people are hot. And they're giving. I don't think that all bisexual people are greedy, but I will say that, you know who is greedy sometimes? The girls that aren't actually bi, but they flirt and go, “I'd kiss a girl at a party. I'm bi.” I'm not talking about girls that are bi that have boyfriends, because you can definitely, obviously, a hundred percent be bi and have a boyfriend, but the girls that pretend to be bi for the male gaze. 

JS: Do you think that's women’s version of “queer baiting?”

MS: Yeah. Don't you feel like that’s not doing of us any favors – the bi community – because people already don't believe us. And if we're bi and we have a boyfriend, then lesbians don't believe that we were actually attracted to women. I mean the same goes with a man who's bi and dating a woman. People are like, “Oh, is he just gay?” That's really, um, painful. So, when someone's like, “I'm bi,” but then you find out that they've never actually dated a woman and they've just kissed a girl at a party, then I think that kinda hurts our community. 

JS: I feel like just queerness in general is just fun and everyone should do it.

MS: It's also a scale. Sometimes I feel more gay. Right now I probably feel mostly lesbian, but I have had feelings for men before, so I am bi. Like, I get a crush on a guy sometimes, once in a while. It's okay. It is a scale, but there is a certain group of people who do say they're bi that…Well, for instance, I did a gay dating show and one of the women, who stood up when I asked who wanted to be in the show that dates women, ended up calling me a bitch on stage and at the end of the show said, “I don't even date women.” So that kind thing is like, not really that nice.

JS: Just to get on stage. Wow. 

MS: Yes. You just wanted us to think of you as a gay woman and think that that is hot. It's like oversexualizing female relationships. What's your favorite cliche? 

JS: That all bi people are greedy.

MS: Oh, that's your favorite. 

JS:  It's one of my favorites. I just love the idea that people being attracted to multiple people is being greedy. That’s hilarious. Well, why not? Who said we couldn't, you know? Well, I know who said we couldn't but…

MS: You're right. You know what's funny is when straight women think that just because we like women that we're into them.

JS: Who is the first queer actor to influence you? 

MS: I was gonna say my favorite would be you.

JS: Do you remember a time where you were like, that's the first queer person that's influenced what I do?

MS: I definitely, classically love Clea DuVall. We're not similar at all, but watching her and being like, oh god, she's really hot and cool and that's definitely a gay woman.

JS: That's definitely a gay woman. I feel like mine was Rupert Everett. He was in My Best Friend's Wedding. I just remember not knowing he was gay until after we saw the movie and then my mom and aunts were like, “He's gay in real life I think.” He wasn't out yet. 

MS: In that movie, his character's not gay?

JS: Yeah, he's gay in the movie, but back then you didn't admit that you were gay even if you played a gay character on TV. Then when he did come out I was like, oh no wonder he was so good in that movie because he's gay and I'm gay and I feel like I'm just as funny as him – in my life, not in his talent. I remember seeing that and being like, no wonder he's so special. 

MS: So that does go into, again, that kind of cliché that most gay men are very funny. I know there's straight men that are funny too, but I will say I haven't encountered as many. Why do you think so many queer people are so funny? Do we have this similar sense of humor? We’ve just been through so much or something.

JS: I feel like for me the reason I think I'm funnier than most of my straight family members – I'll keep it in my own family – is because I was bullied as a kid so I was always quiet and very observant. 

MS: Yeah.

JS: So, I was always picking up on little things that people did and, you know this because you do characters, you just watch how people are and you pull from all of that. Also, when you're made fun of, you kind of have to build this quick wit to get back at people because sometimes you're not the strongest person in the room, but if you are the sharpest with your tongue… I remember always trying to make people laugh when I would go into a new classroom or a new job because that was my in, you know? I think because of the cliché of gay people being funny, I was like, okay, I'll just be funny. Then when people were like, “You're so funny!” I'd be like, oh, thank god we're not talking about the fact that I like dick. 

MS: That makes so much sense. That's so sweet. I feel similar. I think the first time I realized I was funny was in high school theater with my gay boyfriend. We were really caddy and funny and we never got the parts we wanted, so we would just be like, let's make the most of it. I think it is similar. I was so bullied in middle school and had such a hard time that [theater] was my safe place and I could be myself with my gay friends. I was still shy during the day at school. 

JS: It's funny that you say you didn't get the parts that you wanted. I was chubbier in middle school, so they never gave me the lead parts of the play. 

MS: It’s so weird that the drama teacher does that. Like, she's looking at our bodies and she's like…

JS: She would say, “Wow Johnny, I really don't know where to place you.” And I was like, uh, in the show please. There was one year where we did Seussical the Musical and I wanted to be the Cat in the Hat so bad because he was the funny one. At that time, Mike Meyers had just done Cat in the Hat and he had a little chubby stomach. I was like, oh, I can do it because there's a new wave. And they were like, “No, we're going for more of a traditional Cat in the Hat.”

MS: To a kid! That is so insane. I remember too, it would be like, whoever the drama teacher thought was like “sexy.” It's weird, we're kids! We don't have to look like the adult parts. We don't anyway.

JS: Speaking of drama class, do you remember the first time you smoked weed? I know when mine was. That's why I ask. It was in this realm.

MS: I have a hard time because I'm a baby with weed. I remember really wanting to try it. I had just moved to Chicago and was with my two friends – we kind of all had crushes on each other and they both were trying to teach me how to do it and I was trying to be cool. They smoked it into my mouth and I thought that was hot. But, of course I coughed and then on the way home was like, “I'm gonna get pulled over, I'm gonna get pulled over, I know it!” I took maybe one puff. 

JS: Were you driving?

MS: Yeah. It was one puff. They shotgunned it too. I wasn't high.

JS: How old were you?

MS: I was older. I was twenty-three or twenty-four. It hurt my throat because I didn't do it right.

JS: I love that you took one puff. The first time I did it, my parents were out of town so I invited all my friends over. It was my senior year. We couldn't drink alcohol because my parents would measure it when they came back home. 

MS: Oh, my god. 

JS: They didn't trust my sister, but they trusted me even though I was the one having people over at the house. It's so funny how you feel like I just want to be cool, so let me do it because all the cool people I knew already did it. So, I did it and I was like, “Guys I don't feel anything.” So I kept smoking more and more. I thought it was like a cigarette. When I tell you – I was literally in the fetal position in the shower crying for my mom and my dad.

MS: How old did you say you were?

JS: Eighteen.

MS: That's so sweet.

JS: I feel like being in drama, I was a little extra dramatic. So I'm in the shower crying. My friends are making fun of me, like, “Wow, she's really high.”

MS: That's really cute. I was such a baby and my cousins were kind of naughty. When I was 13 they would always wanna go smoke weed and I never would because I was so scared. I remember there was a time they were smoking in their room and our parents were downstairs and I was so scared. I can't lie. I was scared my mom would ask me if they were smoking. I wasn't smoking, but I didn't want them to know I was in the room. So, I was in the closet with the door shut while they were smoking, thinking that if my mom asked me if I saw them, then I could say no. One of our siblings saw the smoke and was like, “The girls are smoking!” And my mom comes running up the stairs and I get dragged out of the closet and she's like, “Were the girls smoking? Were the girls smoking?” And I was like, “You can't do this to me!” And I never told, but they knew because I wouldn't say that they weren't. 

JS: When you make up your characters or your improv, do you ever smoke? Have you ever smoked and thought like, wow, I'm so much funnier when I'm high?

MS: Um, again, I can't lie, so we could change this for the publication, but I don't smoke. But, I think if I could smoke…for the publication: smoking is awesome! Here's what I'll say. Smoking cigarettes is not awesome, but I think smoking weed feels like it probably could open you up to, first of all, relaxing, second of all, it sounds very, very fun and it does sound like I probably would be very silly if I was high and I'd love to try it. I think I was telling you and Hannah [Einbinder] that I'd love to try it sometime.

JS: Oh my gosh, yes.

MS: It's more that I'm a fan of Buds Digest but if I smoke, my throat hurts and I'm a baby, but I would love to try to get high. 

JS: You just have to do it the right way. I feel like when I smoke, I think I'm the funniest person in the room. 

MS: You are the funniest person in the room!

JS: Shut up. Not when I'm in a room with you, baby.

MS: I have tried weed drinks and it's relaxed me. I go to sleep and I sleep really deep and have crazy dreams. 

JS: You like CBD?

MS: I haven't tried that. I mean weed is probably healthier than alcohol, right? It kind of relaxes you…

JS: Oh, one hundred percent. Alcohol is literally poison.

MS: Yes. You're poisoning your body and weed is basically medicine. 

JS: Well I guess you haven't done LSD then.

MS: See I haven't really done anything. I have smoked weed a couple times. I took a puff of somebody's weed outside of a Chipotle in front of my mom once. And that was pretty wild.

JS: Did you know the person?

MS: Isn’t that so “Ohio.” I took a puff of weed out of someone's vape in front of Chipotle, in front of my mom. Since I didn't smoke it right, it hurt my throat.

JS: Can you reenact how you took the puff?

MS: Can you tell me how you smoke it? 

JS: You have to kind of be chill. You inhale, breathe it in and let it out. I mean, I cough all the time, but they say that if you cough, it makes you more high. So, sometimes I like to cough and let in more oxygen. Do you ever think about how you and your personality would be if you did these things? You on mushrooms, what would that look like in your head to you?

MS: I think I would get anxious at first.

JS: Mm-hmm.

MS: I think that is part of the fear, that I will get anxious and be like jumping outta my body or something. When I have a single drink, I'm kind of like woo! but, I’m kind of already woo! so, I don't really do anything because I'm already high. I think it'd be fun to get high with you and just laugh and watch movies.

JS: Well, we usually get together on Thursdays and watch Real Housewives with Hannah and Mark [Indelicato]. Hannah and Mark for sure smoke weed.

MS: I think we'd have a lot of fun watching that while smoking. One of the questions is: what's your favorite memory together? And I think one of my favorite memories with you is when we were in the trailer for Queer as Folk and we were doing our game – our singing game.

JS: Me, you, Lucas Gage and Ryan O'Connell. What were we singing?

MS: So, my favorite game is when you make a group of people go one by one and earnestly sing as best they can. You can't do any joke singing. 

JS: That's right!

MS: And there's no background music. It's just really nerve-wracking to just sing the best you can outta nothing. It's so funny to just really try to earnestly sing and not try to laugh. You also get to realize who of your friends is a really good singer. You have a beautiful voice!

JS: Me?

MS: Yes! I feel like you sang maybe Aladdin or something. Did you sing Aladdin?

JS: I think I did. Imagine doing that high. I feel like everyone else would feel like, wow, I'm such a good singer. 

MS: I think it would be helpful to be high during that game to kind of relax me because I'm a nervous singer. That's part of the fun of the game is to be a little nervous. 

JS: Wait. I have a video. We were so happy that day.

MS: I know. Take me back. I had so much fun. That trip was so fun with you guys and singing earnestly is just really electric.

JS: That’s what was fun about shooting that for Queer as Folk. We’re both on Hacks, but we don't have any scenes together. 

MS: Do we have any scenes together? In season one, were you in the party scene at the end? We've never been in a scene together on Hacks!

JS: Not on Hacks. We go to dinner and we'd always hang out that way, but you know, it wasn't until Queer as Folk that we were actually acting together.

MS: That's crazy that we haven't because we hang out so much that it feels like we've been in scenes, but I guess we haven't.

JS: Remember when I was having to eat Ryan O'Connell's ass and you, Lucas, Calvin and Olly were just back there like…

MS: It was late at night too. 

JS: We were delirious by the end of the day. I wanna talk about anthropomorphism. Do you know what that is? 

MS: What is that?

JS: If you were an animal, what animal would you be?

MS: Oh, I love this. You probably see that there's a dog cage behind me and that's because I had a dream about adopting a dog and then yesterday I adopted one. I'm gonna go get her.

JS: Yesterday? Where are they?

MS: Well, first of all, I've been looking for weeks because I wanted to rescue a little animal. 

JS: Yeah. 

MS: Yesterday I went to the pound to look at her and was like, “Am I ready for a dog yet?” It was really intense. She was so dirty and not being taken care of it was like an emergency situation. So, I'm gonna go pick her up today. That's her bed.

JS: Oh my gosh. Did you pick a name?

MS: She's really cute. I could show you a picture of her. She looks like a weird animal – like a bear. The name they gave her is Chewy, but I don't think I'm gonna keep that name. She doesn't know her name. She was a stray and she’s only 1.

JS: If you were a dog, what kind of dog would you be?

MS: So, yes, if I was an animal, I do think I probably would be a dog.

JS: Yeah.

MS: I feel like I'm a dog. I was just telling someone yesterday that I'm a dog and my girlfriend feels like a cat and she has a cat. I feel like she's a cat. A very warm cat. She's a cat that likes dogs and I'm a dog that likes cats.

JS: I feel like you're a dog that likes everyone though.

MS: I also like cats, but I'm a dog who is a dog that likes dogs, but I also like cats. It works. We're not like a cat and dog that fight, you know what I mean?

JS: Would you say you're a dog that would protect your owner or just lick whoever comes near you guys?

MS: I think I'm a dog who's really flirty and playful with everyone, but very loyal to one partner and owner. So I'm a dog who's not poly, but I do love to flirt. I'm a big flirty, playful dog who loves – but I am protective and get jealous. What kinda animal did you think I would be?

JS: I don't know. I thought you would pick a little monkey, like a little spider monkey. 

MS: Really?

JS: They're so cute and live in trees and just like to play all day. And you know, eat bananas.

MS: I do like monkeys too. What about you? What kinda animal would you be? A lion?

JS: Oh, wow.

MS: You're really regal and powerful, but also a lion that loves everyone. Like the videos of an owner playing with a lion they've known for years. You're like that kind. What do you think you are?

JS: I would say if we're not domestic, maybe an elephant.

MS: What made you feel like an elephant?

JS: I just feel like I take up a lot of space. I'm chill. I don't like to be messed with. And if a poacher came from my family, I'd probably kill them. Have you seen that video of that elephant that went to the lady's funeral and charged in and stomped on the lady because she knew that the lady poached her baby?

MS: Who invited her to the funeral?! That is criminal to make her see her family's murderer's funeral.

JS: She was exacting her revenge, you know, like Liam Neeson vibes.

MS: I mean, if someone did anything to my family, I would show up at the funeral and act like I was gonna charge at their body, I guess. Although if I killed her to begin with, I feel like I’d stay home. 

JS: So yeah, I'd be an elephant, but if I was a domestic animal, I'd be a dog, but I'd probably be one of those grumpy older dogs that you have to pick up and put on the couch because they can't jump anymore.

MS: I would be the kind of dog who's maybe a lab, the kind of needy dog who likes to be inside but also enjoys being out. 

JS: They're so sweet. 

MS: What do you think you were in a past life?

JS: Do you ever think about that? Like, what you might have been in a past life?

MS: I do think about that, if past lives are real. I wasn't thinking about it until a couple years ago and then I heard this podcast about past life regression and I was like, whoa, well, maybe, maybe. Right? That could be true. What do you think you were in a past life?

JS: I actually haven't thought about it. I always think about what I would be in my next life. Hopefully things will be a little easier next time. 

MS: Oh, do you feel like you're a new soul who hasn't lived a lot of past lives?

JS: Maybe this is the first iteration.

MS: You feel like a new life. Oh, it's really sweet. What do you think you'll be in the next life?

JS: Global warming's gonna suck. I don't know. Hopefully I'll be a gay person again. I can't imagine being straight. I'd love to be someone that's more science driven or mathematical because I'm so creative.

MS: That just gave me chills down my spine.

JS: Maybe rich, like the next CEO of Apple or something.

MS: Oh wow. I could definitely see it. And it's gonna be futuristic where you live, you know? You might be living on Mars. You know that I'm a god girl and I love and believe in god. 

JS: You are. 

MS: I'm a god girl, but I also think about how a lot of different religions are very similar. We're all calling it different things, so I was like, oh wait, maybe past lives are real and maybe that's part of it too. Since I feel like a lot of my dreams are coming true in this life but it feels like I had to conquer some things, maybe in a past life I was someone who knew she was into women, but was married to a man or something. There's something I was longing for, for the life I have now. 

JS: Yeah. 

MS: Maybe in a past life I was a really traditional housewife, sort of – even though, now I really do wanna have kids, but it definitely will look different than in my past life. 

JS: Like Julianne Moore in The Hours.

MS: I haven't seen that, but I know what you're talking about. I feel like I was probably sweeping my floor and the babies are crying and I'm dreaming of being an actress or something; dreaming of being with a woman. There's some longing, I think, in my past life

JS: I thought about you as, uh, – is it Eleanor Roosevelt the one that was gay on the side? But she was married to the president. I feel like that would be a good one too. 

MS: I was Eleanor Roosevelt.

JS: That'd be amazing actually. I've always wanted to ask you this, but I never do. Do you ever get tired of people saying “Hi gay” to you?

MS: I'll never get tired of that. It's so nice. It's like, if I was to be recognized for anything – I never wanted to go viral – but if there's something to go viral for, that's what I would've wanted it to be. Because “Hi gay” is so nice. It's so inclusive and it's friendly. There was only one time that a woman said it on the street where it sounded like a slur, like, she was like, “Hi gay,” like it sounded sarcastic. So, I love it. 

JS: Do you remember when my friend tattooed “Hi gay” on himself and I sent it in the group chat. 

MS: It’s so cool. That's so nice. It's welcoming and nice and I've never gotten annoyed at that, ever.

JS: What's your favorite thing about being on Hacks? 

MS: I think it has to be working with you guys, my best friends. We have so much fun. 

JS: Yeah. 

MS: It just doesn't feel like work, any day. Even if we're waiting for the scene and we're laughing in the other room. There was one day on set where we were in this room that felt like an adult daycare. It felt like we were babies.

JS: They come and they're like, “Alright guys.”

MS:  We had a lot of snacks or something and we were doing videos. I think just working with you guys and Paul [Downs]. I mean, I like getting to work with Paul so much. He's so funny

JS: So funny.

MS: What do you think your favorite part is?

JS: Not to be corny, but it is really the same thing. When people ask me “Oh, what is it like to work with all of them?” I’m like, honestly, it's the easiest thing in the world. It's so nice. I remember Paul came up to me and Carl once and was like, “So sorry we're taking so long for the next setup.” I'm like, Paul, this is literally the easiest job in the world. Not only that, but you know when you're having fun at a friend's house and you don't want the party to stop, like – why don't we go to a diner or something? That's how I feel when I'm with you guys. I'm at work but I'm like, “Okay, does anyone want to get a bite now?”

MS: That’s so sweet. I remember that day we literally worked from morning till late at night and we all went to your house after to watch Real Housewives. I was with Hannah all day, but then like, we just wanted to keep hanging out and we all missed you and wanted to come over to see you. We hung out till midnight. Here's a question.

JS: Yeah. 

MS: What character would you be if you had to be somebody else on Hacks?

JS: Hrm. I'd probably be Deborah [Vance].

MS: I knew you would say that. That seems like such a fun part.

JS: Not because she's the lead, but the stuff she gets to do, it's so funny. Also there's so much heart in the stuff that she says. The stuff that she wears and her house. So fabulous. I feel like for a lot of gay men that watch Hacks, they see it and they're like – I love this bitch. Because she does represent so many, classic divas, like Joan Rivers; all the really special women I grew up watching and thinking those are my idols. 

MS: What is it about them? Do you feel like gay men love a powerful woman? What is it about certain women that make them iconic?

JS:  I think because society has often discarded women or treated women as if they're not equal, I feel like gay men see that and they see how women overcome that and are badass beyond that. They're like, well if she can do it, I can do it too. 

MS: That’s making me cry. It’s so sweet.

JS: And all of the stuff that Deborah talks about, there are undertones to it. Stuff that she has to go through, the industry and things like that. I just find the character so cool and I love that she's always surrounded by gay people, queer people, like you and…well, is your character queer in the show?

MS: My character, I'd like to think, would love and be open to a date with a woman. I've always thought Kayla has male model boyfriends and she’d be like, “Yeah, I'd go out with a girl.” I don't think she has said she's bi so I don't know about that. She might be one of those people that would kiss a girl at a party!

JS: Kayla is such a pixie dream girl.

MS: I've always felt so supported by the queer community and gay men in general. I feel like they have always supported my comedy and there's been such love between us that I feel really comfortable and at home when I'm at a drag show or a queer show. I don't feel that from every space that I go in. It's probably also that I love gay men so much.

JS: Can I tell you the amount of gay men that text me like, “Hey, do you think Meg would do this?” First of all, I'm not her rep! 

MS: I’m so sorry!

JS: We have a friendship. I'm not gonna pimp you out to gay people. I don't wanna be shady, but sometimes it's like, ask her reps! I'm not gonna ask her if she's gonna do your podcast, babe. The girl's busy. But, I do love when they do that because it just reinforces how special you are. 

MS: That's so nice, Johnny. I feel like my friends are your friends because I always have people be like, “I'm Johnny's friend!” Then I'm instantly friends with them. You're just everyone's best friend and it really shows how special you are. There's something special about gay men and the queer community supporting women that have overcome things or funny women. I don't have a big straight male audience. It's usually the girls and the gays and queer people. I'm sure there's straight men that like me, but I have always found that that's not my biggest group of people that watch me.

JS: Do you ever feel like when we go to award shows that we're like the people that won the trip to go to the award show? We're the gang of misfits and they're like, “You won the prize!” And we show up in our little outfits. 

MS: I think it's so funny, that kind of stuff. I think at award shows, you have to have the perfect amount of this is so funny and weird and then also I’m lucky to be here cause a lot of people don't get to. But, then also, I have a sense of humor about myself because you can't take it seriously. But, I love getting ready for it and being with my friends. That's why I think we probably act like that, because we have a sense of humor and we're theater kids.

JS: They let five people skip us because they were more famous – my favorite.

MS: The first year at the Emmys, when me and you were at the viewing party, but not the actual Emmys, everybody thought we were at the Emmys because we kept doing pictures and videos. It actually doesn't matter who's there and who's not. It's like, none of this matters, just if you're having fun. It literally was just me, you and Mark at the viewing party. Nobody else was from any show. 

JS: Then everyone started to show up and we were already a little tipsy.

MS: That was so fun to just be laughing with you guys. We got to try all the different foods and we got to sit on the couch alone and have space and laugh and celebrate on our own. 

JS:  It was fun. If there was any other show that you would be on, what would it be? If you could have a dream cameo.

MS: I mean, I think everybody wants to be on this show but, it'd be so fun to be on White Lotus. It’s so funny. And also scary.

JS: If you had to pick a character, who would your character be on White Lotus?

MS: I think it'd be fun to be on it because I love to play rich, insane people. Also, it'd be really funny to be one of the hotel workers who keeps messing everything up. Either a hotel manager or something, someone really bad at her job.

JS: You know on cruises where they have the activities director? I could see you being the person that's like, “Alright, we're doing bingo down by the pool!”

MS: But she's also hooking up with everybody that checks in. She's a full sex addict, but she's also just trying to impress her boss. What would you wanna be on?

JS: I was gonna say White Lotus!

MS: You'd be so good.

JS: I'd wanna be part of a gay couple that's getting married at the resort and one of them's a Bridezilla – or Groomzilla. Who cares? Gender sucks, but I don't know if I would wanna be the villain, though. 

MS: I could also see us as a couple on White Lotus, but we're cheating on each other. I don't know that you're gay. You don't know that I'm gay.

JS: We've been together since high school so we kind of just rolled with it. 

MS: That's so funny. They're both kind of seeing other people. They're both gay. 

JS: They don't talk about it. Love that. 

MS: We pitched a lot of good characters for us for that show.

This conversation has been edited for length and clarity.